If the
loan is unsecured, then the deal between Sam and Nancy is unrelated to the
IRA and Sam.
The unsecured loan proceeds may be used by Sam for any purpose. Any deal that Nancy and Sam make then may involve any deal
the two acting as individuals wish to make.
If the loan is secured by the real property involved, and no other
agreement between Nancy and Sam about the profit split occurs during the
time that the loan is not repaid to the IRA, any subsequent deal is
also not subject to prohibited transaction rules.
There is a definite break between the payoff and what follows. This also does not appear to violate any indirect rule, as
this is not “getting around” the prohibited transaction rules; these
are just separate deals.
Another approach is to have the loan from Nancy’s Roth IRA
secured by another property unrelated to the apartment complex.
In this way there is no nexus between properties and
Nancy’s IRA is in a secured position.
The loan proceeds to Sam are used for whatever purpose Sam has.
The deal to split proceeds between Sam and Nancy is unrelated to
the IRA. If
Nancy wants to have part of the sale of the apartment complex
profits go to her IRA and part to her, she would normally have to
be partners with her IRA. If
she wanted her half of the profits split between the IRA and herself
equally, for example, she would have to partner with the IRA 50-50.
Of course the alternative is that she arranges an agreement with
Sam to not only have the IRA repaid the loan, but also after payoff
receive 25% of any sale proceeds as part of the deal.
Once the loan is paid off, the IRA owns an agreement with
Sam to receive 25% of the profits from the sale.
Also, after that time, Nancy could make a separate agreement with
Sam to receive 25% personally from sale proceeds.
In this way, Nancy is not dealing with the assets of her IRA,
she is merely dealing with Sam on a separate deal involving his sale of
the complex.
The IRA asset is a contract to receive revenue, and Nancy has a
similar transaction, which does not involve the contract with her IRA.
Both Nancy’s IRA and Nancy benefit from the deal with Sam.
It is just a matter of how the transaction is structured to insure
compliance with the IRS code, and simultaneously meet the objectives of
the parties.
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